Coming to terms with their experience

Veterans reflected on the ways they came to terms with their firearm injuries, including how the experience sometimes led to a sense of embarrasment, how the experience did or didn’t change the way in which they engage with firearms, and the different places they found support in the aftermath of their injury. 

Feeling embarrassed

Veterans talked about feeling embarrassed after their injuries, which some found difficult to cope with. A few talked about how they should have known better due to their extensive training and experience. Ken reflected that “the simple fact that ‘Hey, you’re ex-military. You’ve been to Iraq, Afghanistan.’ So, I know better.”
 
 

Although Chris was embarrassed after his firearm injury, he used his experience as a teaching opportunity for others.

Although Chris was embarrassed after his firearm injury, he used his experience as a teaching opportunity for others.

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I know why a lot of guys wouldn’t want to share that. It’s embarrassing. You handle firearms for 30-odd years and never have an accident, and then you shoot yourself. It is. It’s a little embarrassing. But in my mind, it was more important and because I was already involved in teaching people firearms safety both in my past and had currently been involved in it, I felt like, why would I hide that? That’s a very important thing that these new shooters need to know about. That, no matter how experienced you are, if you’re not paying attention and if you’re not handling it safety you can be injured or killed. 

Interviewer:  Did it change the way you view firearms and how you interact with firearms?  

Respondent:  I think it just emphasized that I could not be complacent with them just because I’ve handled them for so many years. I had to pay attention. I had to make sure, just like the six-year-old told me, “I know what you did wrong.” Well, when I pick one up, I make sure it’s empty. I make sure that I check even if I just checked it. I don’t just assume it’s empty. I think it just emphasized safety for me a little more, where over the years I had gotten kind of complacent, I think.

 

Ken reflects on how his injury was an accident that happened because “I didn't follow through with making sure the gun was clear.”

Ken reflects on how his injury was an accident that happened because “I didn't follow through with making sure the gun was clear.”

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What happened was there was a malfunction with the said rifle. And, you know, growing up with firearms and being in the military, I know better. I know better than, you know, to assume that there – you know, there possibly could be a round in the chamber. So, you have to clear your weapon to make sure that the magazine has been removed and there is no round chambered in the barrel that could possibly go off. And the day that occurred to me was a day I was frustrated with said air gun that I did not follow those steps that the military taught me, you know, to clear your weapon before you do any kind of work to the weapon. I just automatically assumed that the weapon, or the air gun, was out of pellets in the magazine and it didn’t dawn on me that there was one that was still chambered. 

I haven’t told anyone because to me it was totally my fault for disregarding, you know, safety practices of firearm safety, whether it’s a real firearm or an air gun such as this gun and incident. And it’s embarrassing for me to even bring that up for the simple fact that, “Hey, you’re ex-military. You’ve been to Iraq, Afghanistan.” You know, I was an MP soldier. So, I know better. You know. So, I know how to handle a firearm. The proper way to, you know, check the weapon to make sure there’s not one chambered. And I disregarded all that the day that, you know, I had this accident with my air gun. I disregarded all that. I was too focused on being upset because the silencer end cap blew off and all the internal parts blew out of the end of the cap. And I gathered everything up and screwed them back together again. Due to my anger, I did not follow through with making sure the gun was clear before retesting the gun out to see if it was fixed. I paid off that price. I shot myself in the finger.

 

Jason talks about coming to terms with his decision not to wear ear protection while using firearms.

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I mean, I guess one thing I haven't shared is that it affects my family; my wife, and my kids. They're definitely affected by it. They can see that I'm in pain, and it affects them, I guess, on an emotional level. But other than that, I don't think I mentioned it at all. 

Interviewer:      Has it impacted you on an emotional level as well? 

Respondent:     I mean, yeah, and just the fact that I know that, that I made the wrong decision by doing something this way. Because of that it's caused me to have hearing loss, and tinnitus. And I know that it's not going to come back no matter how hard I try or anything like that. It's gone forever. And that, kinda, impacts me a little bit, knowing that I could have done something different.

Interviewer:      So you blame yourself?

Respondent:     Yeah sometimes I do. But ultimately, I feel like it, if there had been more impact on how important ear protection was, I think it would have made a difference. But ultimately, it was my decision, and I don't have anybody to blame but myself.

Getting support

Veterans talked about the different places they received support to help them cope with the trauma of their injury, including from friends, family, mental health professionals, and Veteran-serving organizations. Often, they received support from more than one source Ben shared that he “had friends to talk to as well. And of course, my girlfriend, so I had a support system, therapy as well. I journal, too, so that kind of helps me intrinsically process things.”
 
 

Jeff talks about experiencing mental health issues, and how receiving the correct diagnosis of PTSD and engaging in therapy have helped him cope.

Jeff talks about experiencing mental health issues, and how receiving the correct diagnosis of PTSD and engaging in therapy have helped him cope.

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The way I acted, it was always, “Oh, he’s, he’s a management problem. He’s a behavior problem. Here, write him a ticket.” Then I had, fortunately, a failed suicide attempt and was placed in mental health. It was basically a prison psychiatric hospitalization. Then I went into residential treatment. My psychiatrist quit and a new guy was hired and just happened he was leaving the VA to be a psychiatrist there. Ten minutes in his office, he’s like, “Man, you’ve been misdiagnosed. You don’t have bipolar. You have PTSD.” And so, through that, once, then being properly diagnosed, now I am on no psychiatric medication and the therapy has worked quite a bit. Well, Chance for Life has helped a lot. And so yeah, I’ve had extensive therapy. And I actually trained in a lot of stuff like drug counseling, like, to help other prisoners.  

Then the Chance for Life program, it’s not a mental health program, but it’s a lot of the same tools. Going through anger management, impulse control, communications, mediation, and I’ve taught all them to other prisoners. So, yeah, quite a bit of therapy and help. 

 

Paul talks about receiving support from his family, especially his fiancée.

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I had support from my family. I had more support from my fiancée because she was actually there when it happened. I believe if a family member is either a witness to the injury or hears about it, a brother, sister, father, or mother, they should be there because who knows? The individual may need somebody to talk to.  Most people feel more comfortable around family members, talking to family members instead of strangers. Unless the stranger were, in this case, a crisis management person who really cares about what happened, wants to hear the story and offers support and understanding. I believe family’s a big support -- can be a big support. For those that need outside family support or whatever, yeah, I fully believe that -- like I said, you got to talk about it. You can’t keep it all bottled up inside.

 

Erin talks about relying on multiple sources of support, including therapy, her partner, and a community of others who are also paralyzed.

Erin talks about relying on multiple sources of support, including therapy, her partner, and a community of others who are also paralyzed.

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I would say in some instances I had to act like I was better than I was, well, better than I felt to make sure everybody else felt comfortable. Because as soon as I would, I went to the dark side, everybody, kind of, started to drown with me. There were definitely times of that. And they, I mean, it impacted. My partner and I dated a little bit prior to my injury. But after my injury, I mean, he's, he stuck by me and very much had to be a caregiver. 

Whereas, and now, it's completely shifted. I do as much on my own. But it's, we've had to work through all of it. But I do know, I mean, obviously I have a good one. But if times get hard, I know that he's going to stick around. So, everybody in my life has been really, really wonderful.  

And I've met an incredible community of people through the Reeve Foundation, through being around other people who were paralyzed, who are the most ridiculous group of humans you'll ever meet. So, I, as awful and traumatizing as it was, and I've have had, both myself and my mother have had extensive therapy. We're all in a good place now.

When I went to the Shepherd Center, part of your program there is you have to go to therapy. They recognize there that people are, have a fundamental shift in their existence. And then after I came home, I had a therapist that I'd been working with previously, prior to all this happening. And I called her up, and rolled in there, and said, "I'm back." And she's, like, "Are we going to talk about this?"

And I've seen her on and off since probably 2012 or '13. I don't see her as much anymore. And we constantly check in. And I have, you know, it's every time I have a trigger or if something happens or I have a weird dream, she's able to talk me through it. And so, I really feel like with trauma, the more you talk about it the less impact it has on you.  

 

Bill talks about getting encouragement from his surgeon and physical therapist.

Bill talks about getting encouragement from his surgeon and physical therapist.

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I also have to give a great deal of credit to my hand surgeon and my physical therapist. They were very encouraging. They did so in a manner that was not just clinical. You know I wasn’t just a patient. I wasn’t just a paycheck, you know. And I think they both appreciated my progress because a lot of people don’t put that much effort into their own recovery.

But let this be a message to anybody in the medical field, doctors, nurses, therapists, pharmacists, if you treat that person like a person and they actually understand that you do have a lot of positive thoughts towards their wellbeing and that it matters, I think that means as much for recovery. I think after my first surgery, I probably would have recovered with some disability and a lot of pain for the rest of my life, but I was going to go on. I was encouraged to go farther and to push farther and to even just desire more. And it was in large part by those absolutely great human beings that also just happen to be a physical therapist and a great hand surgeon.

Adjusting perspectives, decisions and behaviors around firearms

Some Veterans talked about how their firearm led to a reexamination of their interactions with firearms, at least temporarily, including decisions around firearm ownership. Michelle shared that “My brother was murdered by a gunshot, and I haven’t touched one since my injury.”
 
 

William A talks about changing the way he carries his firearms after a pistol he was carrying went off by itself.

William A talks about changing the way he carries his firearms after a pistol he was carrying went off by itself.

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It was a pistol that a friend of mine's mom had purchased. And it was in her drawer. And they were surprised that the mom had a pistol in her drawer. And as he pulled it out of the drawer, it discharged. And so, they told me that this gun went off by itself. And then, I went through it, and of course, I went through it short of tearing it completely apart, but I cleaned it all up.   

And I took it out to the range, and I shot it. And it shot fine. And so, but then, so, and like I said, it was ten years, 12 years later, it was in my holster, and did the same thing it did to him. It discharged. So yeah, and I took it to the gunsmith, and I said, "If you can't fix it, then destroy it." I don't want it. But he did fix it. I still would never carry it cocked and locked on my side ever again  

It didn't change the way I feel about firearms. I just do not carry cocked and locked on my side any longer. It was a good impact and it was a good lesson. But I mostly keep my guns in perfect working order. I believe in, and probably overkill on my cleaning of my weapons, but that's okay. I don't carry broken guns anymore. 

 

After Tony shot himself in the toe, he “didn’t mess with any gun for a while.”

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What happened was, the night I shot my toe with that shotgun, I took that shotgun with my right arm and I threw it across the floor. It slid on over there. It still had seven shells in it. I said, “I am not messing with any guns anymore.” That shotgun – that particular one that I got myself in trouble with my wife, I shot my toe off, was carrying in the streets, and made sure nobody did not bother me. After I shot my toe off with it, I didn’t mess with any gun for a while. It was a while before I got another shotgun. Then when I did get one, it didn’t even work. I bought it. As a matter of fact, it wasn’t too long after that happened that I picked up another shotgun. It was in my family. That is right. It was in my family, and it did not even work. I had to put it in the shop to make it work. It only shoots three times. You know, have you ever heard of skeet shooting? Yeah, that’s what it was. I bought a skeet shooter. It only shoots three shots, but it is an automatic. It’s heavy as hell. It’s back there in the closet. I don’t pull it out. I’ve got machetes back there. I’ve got one, two, three – three rifles and two pistols. I don’t have a carry permit for any of them, so I don’t carry them in the street. I mean I will if I have to, but I don’t have to because I don’t get myself in those predicaments or those situations. After I shot my toe off, I didn’t want to be bothered with a gun anymore, especially that one. That gun got me in so much trouble.

 

Before his injury, Joe kept his firearm put away; now, he says he always has it “on my person.”

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Yes, every time I come outside, I have it on my person. Before, it was, I have it in my bag, have it in my glovebox, have it in the trunk of my car. No, I don’t move without it on me because I feel like I never know when I’m going to need it. It’s not for me to flaunt it. It’s not for me to … it’s for me, for my protection purposes only. I don’t even really want you to know that I have it with me. So, it’s like, make sure I got my concealed permit and I have it on my person. I continue my regular day like nothing’s wrong, but I make sure that it’s with me at all times.

 

Mickie reflects on his choice to continue to own a firearm despite the risks.

Mickie reflects on his choice to continue to own a firearm despite the risks.

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You know, I did sit back and analyze, you know, ever since I had different firearms, and the incidents that I’ve been in with them, you know, I said to myself, “Hey, you know, you have been a lot of places.” I was raised in, you know, Miami and I used to walk and, you know, Miami was really high in crime. Been in North Carolina, New York, different places like that, traveling, you know, across town, mass transit, and never had a problem with anyone.  

But then, when I get a couple of firearms, here I am, two or three different times. Well, it’s best for you to leave it at home. You know, even though the one incident was at home. You know, like I said, I was jumped up, it was a different type. It was a revolver .357 where you don’t just pull the trigger; you have to cock it, and then fire it. And I was trying to show her how to do that but then, it slipped. And so, what it did, you know, when it went off, it went through the door, the wall, the door, and through all my kid’s clothes. You know, it was like, “Okay, maybe I’d better not have another firearm,” you know, because it could’ve got serious. You know, somebody could’ve got hurt or something like that. But, been pretty fortunate since those three incidents. Other than that, you know, even though I’m not supposed to have it, I still got to have it. You know, that’s just the American way, I guess.

Struggling to move forward

For some, coping with their injury continues to be a challenge. A few Veterans talked about avoiding thinking about the experience, while others turned to substances to escape the pain. Joe said, “I lost my mojo. I struggled. Just mad at the world.”
 
 

Doug recalls getting some support from family and friends after witnessing his friend’s suicide, but of the trauma he says, “even to this day, I haven’t really cleaned this up.”

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My brother had just lost his best friend about a year before in a three-wheeler accident, and I remember him telling me, maybe I should talk to one of my friends, and even mentioning a specific friend that he thought might--if I didn’t want to talk to him--he thought it might be good to go talk to somebody. There was a point not too long after, where I remember being in the same town where it happened and just breaking down crying, and I went to a church to try to find a priest to talk to, and I couldn’t. There wasn’t a priest there but there was an older guy--really nice older guy there that really wanted me to talk to him and I just couldn’t do it, and so I just gave up and went about my day or whatever, I don’t know. But I do remember an instance where I was really looking for help over it. 

And then let’s see, it would be another eight years--maybe-- before I’d actually figure out I had problems and needed help. And even to this day, I haven't really cleaned this up, I kind of don’t mess with it, it’s kind of a bad, bad time in my life. I think I locked it up pretty much. I know all my close friends at the time that I hung out with, there was maybe a point where I got drunk and freaked out... I don’t remember sitting down and talking to any of them about, "This is something that happened," and everyone kind of whispered about, "Oh, he’s pretty screwed up," whatever. But I was just supposed to get over it; I just locked all my mental problems kind of away in a box and keep them from view for a real long time. But when I was by myself, I would break down and get upset about it. 

My wife now, that I’ve been with for 21 years, when I met her, is the first person that really encouraged me to not hide, not try to hide my feelings or--I would go driving by myself and cry the whole time and look up, and it’s been 30 minutes and I’m in a whole other part of the city, and I don’t necessarily know how I got there, things like that. 

So, when I got with my current wife, she really encouraged me to open up about a lot of stuff and also to go to the hospital and try to get some help. I ended up having a suicide attempt and that was my first entry into getting involved with mental health. And so, I was hospitalized briefly. So, that’s how I got into getting mental health help.

 

Darrell says it’s taken him a long time to get over the fact that he was shot.

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It was traumatic just getting shot again. You know, you’re just kind of terrified. You don’t know if somebody’s going to come around or not come around. And for several years it just caused me to have some issues. It has caused me not to trust nobody. It’s caused me to be leery of everyone. And I’m not so open and honest with people as I used to have been. And it took me a long time to get over the fact that I was shot and the fact that I was shot because my girlfriend left me to be involved with another woman. That was an ego blow. It took me several years to get over that. And now I’m over it. I’ve moved away. And I’m just doing what I’m doing now. And I try not to think about it. 

I don’t know how I got past it. It was just time. I just tried not to think about it anymore. It was just, I guess, a lesson learned. And I learned a lot from that. I learned that you just can’t take people at their word. And even though you know who they are and – you think you know who they are. And you know, you’re supposed to be in a relationship with somebody. It's not always what it seems to be. And so, therefore, I have a little problem trusting folks.

 

Joe recalls that after he was shot, “I got angry, I turned to alcohol, I got divorced. It wasn’t pretty.”

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I lost, I always tell my wife, I lost my mojo. Absolutely lost it. I don't know what's burning in me to protect people, but I avoided conflict at all costs. I lost, I mean, I'm an apex male. I mean, I'm an alpha male. I'm direct, I'm blunt, I'm in your face and I lost all that. I got angry, I turned to alcohol, I got divorced. It wasn't pretty.  

Interviewer: Were you offered any emotional support during that time?  

Respondent: I have a psychiatrist with the VA and we talked and he gave me some anxiety medication, stuff like that, and then the casino made me go see a psychologist at least three times, but, at that point I really didn't have the will to talk to anybody or anything like that. I don't know how to explain it. But from that day until probably 2018, I struggled. Just mad at the world.